Legislature(2009 - 2010)BELTZ 211

04/06/2009 08:00 AM Senate EDUCATION


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08:06:54 AM SB105
08:47:54 AM Adjourn
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Moved CSSB 105(EDC) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 6, 2009                                                                                          
                           8:06 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bettye Davis, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 105                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to continuing  the secondary public education of                                                               
a homeless  student; relating to  the purpose of certain  laws as                                                               
they relate to children; relating  to tuition waivers, loans, and                                                               
medical assistance for a child  placed in out-of-home care by the                                                               
state; relating to  foster care; relating to children  in need of                                                               
aid; relating  to foster care  transition to  independent living;                                                               
and relating to juvenile programs and institutions."                                                                            
     MOVED CSSB 105(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 105                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: FOSTER CARE/CINA/EDUCATION OF HOMELESS                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) DAVIS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/11/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/11/09       (S)       EDC, HSS, FIN                                                                                          
03/25/09       (S)       EDC AT 8:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/25/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/25/09       (S)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/03/09       (S)       EDC AT 8:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
04/03/09       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/06/09       (S)       EDC AT 8:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TOM OBERMEYER, staff to Senator Davis                                                                                           
State Capital                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on CSSB 105(EDC) for the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported CSSB 105(EDC).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TERESA TANOURY LUMBARDO, Senior Director                                                                                        
Casey Family Programs                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported CSSB 105(EDC).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA METIVIER, Statewide Coordinator                                                                                          
Facing Foster Care in Alaska (FFCA)                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 105.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JEAN MISCHEL, Legislative Counsel                                                                                               
Division of Legal and Research Services                                                                                         
Legislative Affairs Agency                                                                                                      
Alaska Legislature                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on CSSB 105(EDC).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:06:36 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  BETTYE DAVIS  called  the  Senate Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 8:06  a.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Huggins, Olson and Davis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         SB 105-FOSTER CARE/CINA/EDUCATION OF HOMELESS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:06:54 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR DAVIS announced SB 105 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM OBERMEYER, staff  to Senator Davis, prime sponsor  of SB 105,                                                               
said he would address CSSB  105, version \R, which was introduced                                                               
previously.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  said  this  bill   provides  tuition  waivers  to                                                               
students  who are  or have  been in  the foster  care system  who                                                               
can't go to  college at all, and who are  often homeless for some                                                               
period of  time after the  age of  18. It provides  support after                                                               
they leave  foster care,  and helps  them move  into transitional                                                               
living with some  monetary living expenses for a  short period of                                                               
time. It is intended to  cover several deficiencies in the foster                                                               
care  system in  Alaska; it  won't cover  everything but  it will                                                               
cover what is absolutely necessary at this time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:11:27 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA, sponsor  of  HB 126  (similar  to SB  105),                                                               
thanked the  committee for bringing  up this issue. He  said this                                                               
bill is a synthesis of several  bills over the past several years                                                               
that have  tried to come up  with a comprehensive fix  that would                                                               
not require  major staff  additions to  the Office  of Children's                                                               
Services (OCS) and that will meet the basic requirements.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
One of the major problems in  Alaska and nationwide is the number                                                               
of youth who come out of  foster care and are homeless. They have                                                               
no phone call  lifeline. Recent UA studies show  that about 30-40                                                               
percent of Alaska  foster youth end up homeless at  some point in                                                               
their life after  leaving foster care. So, this  bill extends the                                                               
rental assistance  program that  OCS provides  for kids  who come                                                               
out called  the Independent Living  Program from two months  to a                                                               
year by removing  the arbitrary cutoff for  college or vocational                                                               
educational aid.  Right now 10  scholarships are provided  by OCS                                                               
through private foundation and general fund money.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:14:19 AM                                                                                                                    
The bill  also expands  a successful  federal model  by expanding                                                               
the definition of "homeless" to  include "all foster youth". Many                                                               
youths bounce  between homes frequently,  so they  bounce between                                                               
schools  as  well. "As  you  bounce  between schools,  you  fail;                                                               
that's just what  happens," Representative Gara said.  One of the                                                               
best things you can do is keep  youth in the same school during a                                                               
school year. This help is already  provided on a federal level in                                                               
McKinney-Vento,  to  a  certain  group of  foster  kids  -  those                                                               
awaiting  a foster  care  placement.  But once  they  are in  the                                                               
foster care system, that transportation  funding is not provided.                                                               
This  provision   is  aimed  at   helping  homeless   youth,  but                                                               
"homeless" is  interpreted to mean "homeless-plus  youth awaiting                                                               
foster care."  That definition is  expanded in this bill  to "all                                                               
foster youth."  Every school has a McKinney-Vento coordinator.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  said the  final  provision  says the  state                                                               
should  follow  the federal  rule,  which  is that  foster  youth                                                               
should be visited  at least once a month by  their social worker.                                                               
The recent draft of the  federal review of the state's compliance                                                               
with the federal  laws said that roughly a third  of the kids are                                                               
being  visited less  than once  every  eight months.  So, OCS  is                                                               
doing a much  better job of that over the  last few months (since                                                               
they got the  review), but even they say it  is very important in                                                               
figuring  out  what  a  foster  youth needs  to  be  moved  to  a                                                               
permanent home.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:16:43 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked for the  parameters of the  provision that                                                               
gives state aid for education up to age 29.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  explained that  you want  to give  youth the                                                               
ability to get job training after  they get out of foster care or                                                               
college education  if they  want that. The  question is  how many                                                               
years to  give them  to complete  their degree  or to  figure out                                                               
what they want to do. The  question is at what age lawmakers want                                                               
to use. It's a policy call.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:18:01 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS said he knows  several people who are involved in                                                               
foster care  and they say the  foster kids continue to  call them                                                               
as if they  were the parents; so  he is not sure  that they don't                                                               
have that lifeline.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  responded  that some  foster  families  are                                                               
wonderful  and  do  provide  that,   but  many  feel  that  their                                                               
obligation  ends at  age 18  and some  don't even  have a  foster                                                               
family by  age 18;  they "age-out"  at Covenant  House. A  lot of                                                               
youth don't  have anybody to talk  to when they come  out or they                                                               
will have somebody  to talk to, but no  real lifeline afterwards.                                                               
His  personal  experience with  his  foster  family is  that  any                                                               
contact  there was  after  age 18  was from  him  - for  whatever                                                               
reason.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:19:45 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked how  him how he  managed to  be successful                                                               
based on his foster family experience.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA answered  that he was lucky to  have only two                                                               
foster placements when  he was in the system so  he didn't bounce                                                               
between schools.  He had a family  until age 6 that  was very big                                                               
on education,  and sent him to  a private school for  a year; and                                                               
he was read  to. He also had  two older siblings who  made him do                                                               
his homework and got him  involved in extracurricular activities.                                                               
They were his lifeline when he got out of college.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:21:00 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  OLSON  asked  if rural  schools  have  a  McKinney-Vento                                                               
coordinator.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA replied  that  legally every  school has  to                                                               
have one;  it is more applicable  to the larger cities  that have                                                               
many schools. Kids  are moved from one side of  town to the other                                                               
all the time. McKinney-Vento won't  really apply if you move from                                                               
Nome to  Bethel. In  small school  districts, everybody  has some                                                               
teacher of  staff member  who is  designated as  a McKinney-Vento                                                               
coordinator, but there is often only one school.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked if  his bill [HB 126] closer to  the A or the                                                               
R version of SB 105.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA replied that it is closer to the R version.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  said the concern  with homeless, whether  they are                                                               
urban or rural, is the huge  amount of remedial work that goes on                                                               
through the  University and  he asked if  that had  been factored                                                               
into the fiscal note.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:23:07 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  replied  that  it  probably  had  not  been                                                               
factored  into the  fiscal note.  The University  loses money  on                                                               
students who  are on any program  outside of liberal arts  - even                                                               
if they pay  their tuition. The school he went  to had a remedial                                                               
school to catch kids up who came in without proper preparation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:25:01 AM                                                                                                                    
TERESA TANOURY LUMBARDO, Senior  Director, Casey Family Programs,                                                               
said they  are a private foundation  that has been in  Alaska for                                                               
about  seven  years.  She  said  Casey has  been  involved  in  a                                                               
collaborative  project involving  the  Alaska  Court System,  the                                                               
Office  of Public  Advocacy, Office  of Children's  Services, the                                                               
Anchorage School District,  the Safety in Foster  Care in Alaska,                                                               
and  many others.  They had  meetings  around the  state to  talk                                                               
about improving educational outcomes for foster care.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The courts  are involved because  judges have a checklist  to ask                                                               
every time a child in foster  care comes before them asking basic                                                               
things  to make  sure that  education is  covered. Including  the                                                               
word  "education" into  the child  welfare  statutes helps  folks                                                               
understand that  they have the  authority to ask  these questions                                                               
and to  report back  on how  the child is  doing in  school. They                                                               
know from research that school  stability means so much for these                                                               
children  for the  reasons already  mentioned. She  said homeless                                                               
kids need support and they need  it early. She closed by offering                                                               
herself as a resource to the committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:28:47 AM                                                                                                                    
AMANDA  METIVIER, Statewide  Coordinator, Facing  Foster Care  in                                                               
Alaska (FFCA), supported  SB 105. She said when  foster kids move                                                               
from one  home to another,  they also change schools,  and school                                                               
may be the only point of stability they have.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:30:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS said his wife  is the principal of an alternative                                                               
school and he understands that up to  30 to 40 percent of kids in                                                               
the Anchorage area move between schools,  and he asked if that is                                                               
right and what the rate is among foster kids.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  METEVIER replied  that  the number  is  higher in  Anchorage                                                               
because it  has more schools.  She said that recently  they found                                                               
that younger children  were moving more than the  older kids, but                                                               
she didn't have firm numbers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:32:24 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  if  students stay  with  the same  foster                                                               
family, would they stay in the same school.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. METEVIER said  that is true, but some  placements are changed                                                               
frequently.  Her  own foster  daughter  had  24 placements  in  5                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
At ease from 8:34 a.m. to 8:38 a.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:38:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR OLSON moved  to report CSSB 105(EDC)  from committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:41:03 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS joined the meeting,  and said he would appreciate                                                               
a refresher on the bill before voting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:42:00 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. OBERMEYER quickly reviewed the CS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:44:20 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  if the  transportation language  has some                                                               
flexibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER replied  that the bill says  the transportation has                                                               
to be  within reason. The  funding also  has to be  available for                                                               
these  special   provisions.  Right  now  the   Anchorage  School                                                               
District  spends about  $175,000/yr.  transporting  and they  say                                                               
it's not nearly enough.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:46:30 AM                                                                                                                    
JEAN  MISCHEL,   Legislative  Counsel,  Division  of   Legal  and                                                               
Research Services,  Legislative Affairs Agency, said  language on                                                               
page 2,  line 4, provides  the exception. She explained  that the                                                               
parents of a deaf child  sued under Individuals with Disabilities                                                               
Education Act (IDEA).  Since a program wasn't  available that was                                                               
appropriate  for  their  child  when they  moved  away  from  the                                                               
school,  they  demanded  transportation   services  back  to  his                                                               
original school, a school for the deaf.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:47:54 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR  DAVIS  found  there were  no  objections;  and  CSSB
105(EDC) moved from committee.                                                                                                  
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Vice Chair Davis adjourned the meeting at 8:48 a.m.                                                                             

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